Originally Posted by flash

Do you know that in my son's Cavalry Scout training troop 20% of the graduating Scouts had college degrees? The commander gave the stats at the graduation ceremony. Another 50% had attended one or more year of college. All had graduated from High School. This was a combat arms and not specialized technical training that would have probably had more college graduates.

These are all enlisted and doesn't include the officers.

It is not necessarily true of the combat arms but in most of the technical fields in the US military an enlisted man needs a college degree to advance to the Senior NCO ranks.

The men and women in the military are the best the country has to offer. The dullards that chose not to serve their country are usually the dredges of society. In the college ranks those that chose not to serve are usually those selfish pricks without any honor or sense of self worth. I feel sorry for them.

Wait you are boasting that 20% of enlisted men in the US military have university degrees.

That is not alot, to spend a minimum of three years an university is not hard. It is just a few more years of continued study. You speak of it as though it is some great achievement, I am from a family were you are expected to continue studying when you finish school. The clear majority of my friends either are at Uni or have been their in the past. My cousin is 22 and she is already doing a PHD.

None of them will join the Military because they want to aim high. So the intelligent successful people who want to realise their potential are the dregs of society??

This is how we treat the jerkoffs that don't respect our military:

Gateway Pundit: Flag Burner Duct-Taped to Flagpole For 6 Hours During Child's Soccer Picnic (Video)

It is best to go to the link and watch the video.

Flag Burner Duct-Taped to Flagpole For 6 Hours During Child's Soccer Picnic (Video)

A 21 year-old Valley Falls man was duct-taped to a flagpole for 6 hours after he burned the US flag at a VFW hall.



The man sat duct-taped as the town held its fall youth soccer picnic with a long parade of children passing in front of him.
The Times Union reported:

The young man was given three choices: get turned over to the police, go one-on-one in a fight with a seasoned war veteran, or be duct-taped to a flagpole for six hours with a sign around his neck identifying his alleged crime: flag burning.

It was the third option that would still have the small town buzzing a week after a 21-year-old was hunted down and forced to endure a public humiliation with its roots dating to the Middle Ages. Members of the Veterans of Foreign Wars Post 1938 were incensed enough to tie up the man last Sunday after they accused him of setting the flag in front of their building on fire.

Post Commander Nick Normile, a Vietnam War veteran, said the man came into the post's bar Sept. 18 on Poplar Avenue and was eventually turned away for not having a proper ID.

Apparently angered, the young man, who Normile did not want to name, cut the rope of the American flag flying overhead and used a cigarette lighter to set it on fire, Normile and others said.

The man sat pilloried as the village had its fall youth soccer picnic with a long parade of children passing in front of him.



"He'll never disrespect the flag again, I can tell you that," Normile said.

Normile said the flag had at one point flown over U.S. troops in Iraq had special significance.

Veterans, both local and nationwide, responded to the event as accountings were posted online to the official VFW Facebook page and national Web site. Comments posted supported the act and added ideas for further punishment.

Originally Posted by flash

This is how we treat the jerkoffs that don't respect to our military:

Gateway Pundit: Flag Burner Duct-Taped to Flagpole For 6 Hours During Child's Soccer Picnic (Video)

It is best to go to the link and watch the video.

Flag Burner Duct-Taped to Flagpole For 6 Hours During Child's Soccer Picnic (Video)

A 21 year-old Valley Falls man was duct-taped to a flagpole for 6 hours after he burned the US flag at a VFW hall.



The man sat duct-taped as the town held its fall youth soccer picnic with a long parade of children passing in front of him.
The Times Union reported:

The young man was given three choices: get turned over to the police, go one-on-one in a fight with a seasoned war veteran, or be duct-taped to a flagpole for six hours with a sign around his neck identifying his alleged crime: flag burning.

It was the third option that would still have the small town buzzing a week after a 21-year-old was hunted down and forced to endure a public humiliation with its roots dating to the Middle Ages. Members of the Veterans of Foreign Wars Post 1938 were incensed enough to tie up the man last Sunday after they accused him of setting the flag in front of their building on fire.

Post Commander Nick Normile, a Vietnam War veteran, said the man came into the post's bar Sept. 18 on Poplar Avenue and was eventually turned away for not having a proper ID.

Apparently angered, the young man, who Normile did not want to name, cut the rope of the American flag flying overhead and used a cigarette lighter to set it on fire, Normile and others said.

The man sat pilloried as the village had its fall youth soccer picnic with a long parade of children passing in front of him.



"He'll never disrespect the flag again, I can tell you that," Normile said.

Normile said the flag had at one point flown over U.S. troops in Iraq had special significance.

Veterans, both local and nationwide, responded to the event as accountings were posted online to the official VFW Facebook page and national Web site. Comments posted supported the act and added ideas for further punishment.

Is this supposed to be impressive or intimidating or something? It's frankly disgusting.

Originally Posted by JacquesMagique

Is this supposed to be impressive or intimidating or something? It's frankly disgusting.

Actually it is amazing that the SOB didn't get the crap kicked out of him. I consider him lucky. Very lucky. I know some VFW Halls here where he would not have been given any options at all. Notice the wimp did not chose to go one on one with a real veteran.

After all it was his choice. He could have been turned over to the police for destruction of property/vandalism. He probably would have spent some time in jail.

Originally Posted by DougieG

'The labouring classes'?? That's not quite my viewpoint...

You said it, in this very thread!!

Originally Posted by flash

Actually it is amazing that the SOB didn't get the crap kicked out of him. I consider him lucky. Very lucky. I know some VFW Halls here where he would not have been given any options at all. Notice the wimp did not chose to go one on one with a real veteran.

After all it was his choice. He could have been turned over to the police for destruction of property/vandalism. He probably would have spent some time in jail.

For a self-proclaimed supporter of freedom, you sure enjoy silencing those who disagree with you. I'm actually quite surprised that you support political oppression in the form of vigilante gangs. But then, of course, the men were in the army so attempted violence is fine by you I suppose.

Mind you, in balance that man was bloody stupid. If he'd nicked something off my house I'd be pretty pissed off. He didn't deserve a load of half-educated thugs doing that to him, but equally he should have been punished for vandalism.

Originally Posted by flash

This is how we treat the jerkoffs that don't respect our military:

Gateway Pundit: Flag Burner Duct-Taped to Flagpole For 6 Hours During Child's Soccer Picnic (Video)

It is best to go to the link and watch the video.

Flag Burner Duct-Taped to Flagpole For 6 Hours During Child's Soccer Picnic (Video)

A 21 year-old Valley Falls man was duct-taped to a flagpole for 6 hours after he burned the US flag at a VFW hall.



The man sat duct-taped as the town held its fall youth soccer picnic with a long parade of children passing in front of him.
The Times Union reported:

The young man was given three choices: get turned over to the police, go one-on-one in a fight with a seasoned war veteran, or be duct-taped to a flagpole for six hours with a sign around his neck identifying his alleged crime: flag burning.

It was the third option that would still have the small town buzzing a week after a 21-year-old was hunted down and forced to endure a public humiliation with its roots dating to the Middle Ages. Members of the Veterans of Foreign Wars Post 1938 were incensed enough to tie up the man last Sunday after they accused him of setting the flag in front of their building on fire.

Post Commander Nick Normile, a Vietnam War veteran, said the man came into the post's bar Sept. 18 on Poplar Avenue and was eventually turned away for not having a proper ID.

Apparently angered, the young man, who Normile did not want to name, cut the rope of the American flag flying overhead and used a cigarette lighter to set it on fire, Normile and others said.

The man sat pilloried as the village had its fall youth soccer picnic with a long parade of children passing in front of him.



"He'll never disrespect the flag again, I can tell you that," Normile said.

Normile said the flag had at one point flown over U.S. troops in Iraq had special significance.

Veterans, both local and nationwide, responded to the event as accountings were posted online to the official VFW Facebook page and national Web site. Comments posted supported the act and added ideas for further punishment.

This is disgusting, yes it was bad that he destroyed someones property. I have no problem with the police dealing with him because of destruction of someone else's property.

BUT!!!!

Public humiliation for burning the flag is disgusting. Burning a flag is fine, it is freedom of speech/expression.

Originally Posted by Kiwi 1691

This is disgusting, yes it was bad that he destroyed someones property. I have no problem with the police dealing with him because of destruction of someone else's property.

BUT!!!!

Public humiliation for burning the flag is disgusting. Burning a flag is fine, it is freedom of speech/expression.

The US Supreme Court has ruled that it is free speech to burn your own flag. However, it is vanalism to burn somebody else's flag. There is no free speech issue here.

It was probably better for him to endure the public humiliation. Had he gone before a judge he probably would have served jail time due to the significance of the battle flag to the community.

If you listen to the video you will see where his name and his family were protected by the VFW.

He is lucky this happen in New York State. Had it happen in the South he probably would have been punished much more severely, maybe even fed to the gators or something.

It was actually not a political statement. The guy was just a drunk and did a stupid thing. He got punished as a drunk should be.

Originally Posted by Kiwi 1691

This is disgusting, yes it was bad that he destroyed someones property. I have no problem with the police dealing with him because of destruction of someone else's property.

BUT!!!!

Public humiliation for burning the flag is disgusting. Burning a flag is fine, it is freedom of speech/expression.

Walking onto Private Property(VFW Post is considered Private) and insulting the customs, culture and emblems of those who reside, congregate or socialise their is different to voicing ones opinion publicly on the street.Imagine how offensive it would be if persons released a family of suckling pigs into a mosque, it is also freedom of expression isnt it?

There is a time and a place for everything, this kid chose the wrong place and was shown the error of his ways by those who congregated inside this private place in which he had no buisnes.

Originally Posted by Kiwi 1691

Wait you are boasting that 20% of enlisted men in the US military have university degrees.

That is not alot, to spend a minimum of three years an university is not hard. It is just a few more years of continued study. You speak of it as though it is some great achievement, I am from a family were you are expected to continue studying when you finish school. The clear majority of my friends either are at Uni or have been their in the past. My cousin is 22 and she is already doing a PHD.

None of them will join the Military because they want to aim high. So the intelligent successful people who want to realise their potential are the dregs of society??

I agree with you, getting a degree is so effin easy as to be laughable, particulary when you hear so many wimpish students whine about how stressfull it is.I think stress was bringing a section of Infantrymen through daily contacts in Afghanistan with only one Injury in 4 months(the Injury was to me).No one but me suffered nothing more than a minor scratch, due soley to my standing up fot these lads and making sure they werent killed by some medal hungry glory hunter of a rupert!!

As we are playing Pissing contest though, my son is 19 and already holds a Bsc Hon degree and hopes to use it to land a job in either the RAF as an avionics engineer or as an officer in the royal electrical and mechanical Engineers.That would be a Mass Murderer according to You and Dougie!!!

Originally Posted by pauli007001

I agree with you, getting a degree is so effin easy as to be laughable, particulary when you hear so many wimpish students whine about how stressfull it is.I think stress was bringing a section of Infantrymen through daily contacts in Afghanistan with only one Injury in 4 months(the Injury was to me).No one but me suffered nothing more than a minor scratch, due soley to my standing up fot these lads and making sure they werent killed by some medal hungry glory hunter of a rupert!!

As we are playing Pissing contest though, my son is 19 and already holds a Bsc Hon degree and hopes to use it to land a job in either the RAF as an avionics engineer or as an officer in the royal electrical and mechanical Engineers.That would be a Mass Murderer according to You and Dougie!!!

20% of entry level enlisted ranks in a combat arm having college degrees and 70% having some college is damn good. It reinforces the study that says that the men and women that join the military are generally more educated than those that don't join.

Remember that Cav Scouts, like the Infantry are hard ass combat arms. The brave men that joined the Cavalry Scouts are not looking for a trade or an easy life. They did not join to be clerks or tradesmen or technicians or anything other than do the hard work of defending their country.

I suspect if you go down to the mall and look at the dullards that are hanging out that didn't join the military you won't find 70% of them with college.

If you go down to the hood and see the dullards that didn't join the military 70% of them won't have college.

If you do a survey of all the dullards living in their Mom's basement playing their video games and watching MTV 70% of them won't have college.

Originally Posted by flash

20% of entry level enlisted ranks in a combat arm having college degrees and 70% having some college is damn good. It reinforces the study that says that the men and women that join the military are generally more educated than those that don't join.

It really doesn't. That would be considered absolutely dire in the UK, but then you yanks have pretty low standards.

Originally Posted by flash

Remember that Cav Scouts, like the Infantry are hard ass combat arms. The brave men that joined the Cavalry Scouts are not looking for a trade or an easy life. They did not join to be clerks or tradesmen or technicians or anything other than do the hard work of defending their country.

They're not defending their country, we've discussed this. You don't need them to defend you any more.

Originally Posted by flash

I suspect if you go down to the mall and look at the dullards that are hanging out that didn't join the military you won't find 70% of them with college.

Probably not, no. But your idiotic assumption is that you are either in the army or you are a waster.

Originally Posted by flash

If you go down to the hood and see the dullards that didn't join the military 70% of them won't have college.

See above.

Originally Posted by flash

If you do a survey of all the dullards living in their Mom's basement playing their video games and watching MTV 70% of them won't have college.

See above.

I would like to see some figures for how many students at your best universities have been or go on to be in the army, I expect it is a low figure. In fact, I expect most of the students at MIT, one of the best technical universities in the world, fall into your final category anyway.

Originally Posted by pauli007001

Walking onto Private Property(VFW Post is considered Private) and insulting the customs, culture and emblems of those who reside, congregate or socialise their is different to voicing ones opinion publicly on the street.Imagine how offensive it would be if persons released a family of suckling pigs into a mosque, it is also freedom of expression isnt it?

There is a time and a place for everything, this kid chose the wrong place and was shown the error of his ways by those who congregated inside this private place in which he had no buisnes.

Which is why. The first part said there is nothing wrong with the police dealing with him, for destruction of property.

Originally Posted by Kiwi 1691

Which is why. The first part said there is nothing wrong with the police dealing with him, for destruction of property.

Yet he asked for the Police not to be involved, he chose to be pilloried, his choice, he cant exactly complain about it now.Personally if i was a member of the post i would have given him a hiding, not for buning the flag, but for trespassing on Private property, the same as if he had walked into my home(in my Home he would have dealt with my Remington 870, i take home security very seriously).

How can a citizen of the UK not honor the brave men of the armed forces?

While some cowardly college kids make up stories about the brutishness of the men in uniform the truth of the matter is that the college kids are not morally fit to shine the boots of these brave soldiers.

Here is an example from 2004:

First Bayonet Charge Since the Falklands (IRAQ) May 16, 2004 Go UK!!!!! First Bayonet Charge since the Falklands War.


British troops in Iraq perform their first bayonet charge since the Falklands War.



35 insurgents were killed, while only 3 British troops were wounded. Isn't it ironic that only a few days after Nick Berg was beheaded, that the same terrorist scum feel cold steel themselves. Turn about is fair play.

From Scotland on Sunday Paper
Argylls fight hand to hand in Iraq
BRIAN BRADY WESTMINSTER EDITOR
SCOTTISH troops fixed bayonets and fought hand to hand with a Shi’ite militia in southern Iraq in one of their fiercest clashes since the war was declared more than a year ago, it was reported last night.

Soldiers from the Argyll and Sutherland Highlanders mounted what were described as "classic infantry assaults" on firing and mortar positions held by more than 100 fighters loyal to the outlawed cleric Moqtada al-Sadr, according to military sources.

At least 20 men from al-Sadr’s army were believed killed in more than three hours of fighting - the highest toll reported in any single incident involving British forces in the past 12 months.

Nine fighters were captured and three British soldiers injured, none seriously.

"It was very bloody and it was difficult to count all their dead," one source was quoted as saying. "There were bodies floating in the river."

The Argyll and Sutherland Highlanders were drawn into the fighting when soldiers in two Land-Rovers were ambushed on Friday afternoon about 15 miles east of the city of Amara. The soldiers escaped, only to be ambushed a second time by a larger group of militia, armed with machine-guns, rocket-propelled grenades and mortars.

Reinforcements were summoned from the Princess of Wales’s Royal Regiment at a base nearby. "There was some pretty fierce hand-to-hand fighting with bayonets fixed," the source added. "There were some classic assaults on mortar positions held by the al-Sadr forces."

Official spokesman Major Ian Clooney confirmed the Mehdi army "took a pretty heavy knocking", but refused to specify tactics. "This was certainly an intense engagement," he added.

Noone reads these massive copypastas flash.

Originally Posted by DougieG

Noone reads these massive copypastas flash.

Few believe your unsubstantiated claims either Dougie!!!!

Originally Posted by pauli007001

Few believe your unsubstantiated claims either Dougie!!!!

There is no claim made on the internet that it is possible to fully substantiate. Your claims about anything and everything are equally likely to be lies, including your claim that you have been in the army and your claim that you live in the USA. Those claims are as likely or unlikely to be true as any that I make.

Originally Posted by DougieG

There is no claim made on the internet that it is possible to fully substantiate. Your claims about anything and everything are equally likely to be lies, including your claim that you have been in the army and your claim that you live in the USA. Those claims are as likely or unlikely to be true as any that I make.

Ok Proof as you demand
25080007, scott, P A was my Army Number, this can be checked.

44 lafayette ave , Chelsea MA 02150, addressCan be checked!!
Edited thew Zip, gave my Office Zip in Braintree!!Sorry.

Originally Posted by pauli007001

Ok Proof as you demand
25080007, scott, P A was my Army Number, this can be checked.

44 lafayette ave , Chelsea MA 02184, addressCan be checked!!

Fair enough, they were bad examples. You would be unable to prove your claims about the education of squaddies you knew, or any other story you tell to illustrate your points. This doesn't mean they are lies, but it does mean they could quite easily not be true.

Originally Posted by DougieG

Fair enough, they were bad examples. You would be unable to prove your claims about the education of squaddies you knew, or any other story you tell to illustrate your points. This doesn't mean they are lies, but it does mean they could quite easily not be true.

I made Claims about the education of squaddies?Are you putting words in my mouth again, i also made persistenly racist and homophobic remarks and called Abortion Providers murderers and stated that i wouldnt want a Black persons Organs, or did I?You gotta avoid doing this, it is a serious problem.

I have persistently stated that in the UK squaddies ARE NOT mass murderers as you claim, they are not bullies who steal schoolkids lunch money in their time off, they are not skinheads and racists with Broken noses(remember the Queens regulations for dress and appearance, also the fact that it is usually a weedy kid who has his nose Broken, the one able to handle himself would be the breaker of noses not the breakee, however whilst playing on the Army Rugby team my nose was broken a few times, the army had it fixed and straightened every time,for Google Page Ranking reasons,KAPE and APT were two parts of my job whilst i served(KAPE Keeping the Army In the Public Eye and Army Promotion Team, kind of a recruiting/retention and Google Page Ranking exercise for the Army)).
Perhaps you should, next time you see a recruiting stand for the Army in your local town(TA even), stop and say hello to the squaddies, tell them you think they are thugs and mass murderers(all the venom you unloaded here), they will only laugh at you, showing you to be a big mouthed reactionary and they to be the professional soldiers that i have maintained they are.Never once did i make claims about the education of soldiers, Kindly refrain from making these false accusations against me, i will report the next malicious lie you tell about me, i find your lies insulting, and your accusations that i am a liar, as you see i prooved you wrong there too.It must be tough being you!!!

Originally Posted by pauli007001

I made Claims about the education of squaddies?Are you putting words in my mouth again, i also made persistenly racist and homophobic remarks and called Abortion Providers murderers and stated that i wouldnt want a Black persons Organs, or did I?You gotta avoid doing this, it is a serious problem.

Didn't you say a large number of squaddies you knew either had university education or were planning on getting one? Maybe that was flash, I can go back and check if you like. Either way, I'm glad you are horrified that I insinuated that you said such a ridiculous thing as that squaddies have a good education or any desire for one.

Originally Posted by DougieG

Didn't you say a large number of squaddies you knew either had university education or were planning on getting one? Maybe that was flash, I can go back and check if you like.

I did not say that at all(at the rank of Corporal, depending on recomendation by CO Education is offered to Soldiers, at SGT you would be expected to make attempts to obtain some formal Education, i didnt say this either until now) i did say that a good number of Students that i trained in both Phase 1 and 2 training at the Infantry Training Center(vimy Barracks in Catterick) had dropped out of sixth form or University, the Uni Drop outs had told me they couldnt stand the politicised process they has to undergo and how they had been mocked, humiliated and otherwise Bullied by Faculty and students because they had opinions that others disagreed with.So off you go and check, you will find that i said NONE of the things you falsely accused me of saying.You have a serious problem with making stuff up, is it a compulsive thing?

Originally Posted by DougieG

There is no claim made on the internet that it is possible to fully substantiate. Your claims about anything and everything are equally likely to be lies, including your claim that you have been in the army and your claim that you live in the USA. Those claims are as likely or unlikely to be true as any that I make.

My National Insurance Number in the UK is NS796760*

My ssn in the US is 2508000*.

Paul Andrew scott is my full name, i will give you any proof you need, i gave it to tete when he demanded it too, then he deleted all my responses because he wanted to deny that i was honest, i reposted, he then forbade me from doing so.

Lafayette Ave, Chelsea, Massachusetts 02150, USA.

Uk Address is Upper Brow Rd Paddock , Huddersfield HD1 4UP.

DOB 15/04/70

Place of Birth, St Lukes Hospital Huddersfield.

Want my Bank Details and Mothers Maiden Name???????

Originally Posted by pauli007001

My National Insurance Number in the UK is NS796760*

My ssn in the US is 2508000*.

Paul Andrew scott is my full name, i will give you any proof you need, i gave it to tete when he demanded it too, then he deleted all my responses because he wanted to deny that i was honest, i reposted, he then forbade me from doing so.

Lafayette Ave, Chelsea, Massachusetts 02150, USA.

Uk Address is Upper Brow Rd Paddock , Huddersfield HD1 4UP.

DOB 15/04/70

Place of Birth, St Lukes Hospital Huddersfield.

Want my Bank Details and Mothers Maiden Name???????

Ive edited that post so you can't be the victim of fraud... You haven't proven a point.

Originally Posted by pauli007001

Perhaps you should, next time you see a recruiting stand for the Army in your local town(TA even), stop and say hello to the squaddies, tell them you think they are thugs and mass murderers(all the venom you unloaded here),

I don't think he will ever take you up on your proposition. I could be wrong but I suspect, based upon what I have seen him post, that he doesn't have the guts to face real men.

Originally Posted by flash

I don't think he will ever take you up on your proposition. I could be wrong but I suspect, based upon what I have seen him post, that he doesn't have the guts to face real men.

I'm not sure that you would walk up to a group of 6'10 body building neo-Nazis and tell them that they are stupid ignorant bigots. The same principle stands.

Originally Posted by DougieG

Ive edited that post so you can't be the victim of fraud... You haven't proven a point.

Yes i have you can easily check the details, fraud cannot be achieved by address, all that is required is SSN or NI number, DOB thats it really, but you wanted proof, i gave it to you, what next?Credit card Numbers, this reminds me of the time Tete got all obbsessed about my wife and wanted all her details, i sent him packing, like im going to let someone like him have my wifes details!!!!

Go and check the details, i am who i say i am, the photo on my profile is also me, i am the most honest person here, you are possibly the most dishonest........

44 Lafayette Ave Chelsea MA 02150!!!!!!Want a Photo?
Pauli007001@yahoo.com, Cell Phone Number is 617-775-1571, call and see if im a liar, i think this prooved im not lying!!!

Originally Posted by pauli007001

Yes i have you can easily check the details, fraud cannot be achieved by address, all that is required is SSN or NI number, DOB thats it really, but you wanted proof, i gave it to you, what next?Credit card Numbers, this reminds me of the time Tete got all obbsessed about my wife and wanted all her details, i sent him packing, like im going to let someone like him have my wifes details!!!!

Go and check the details, i am who i say i am, the photo on my profile is also me, i am the most honest person here, you are possibly the most dishonest........

44 Lafayette Ave Chelsea MA 02150!!!!!!Want a Photo?

What? None of this backs up any stories you have told in the past about acquaintances or anything. I'm not asking that you back up things like that, just that you acknowledge that equally I have no way to prove my stories either.

Originally Posted by DougieG

I'm not sure that you would walk up to a group of 6'10 body building neo-Nazis and tell them that they are stupid ignorant bigots. The same principle stands.

I would, no fear, the bigger they come the harder they fall, People over 6'6" generally suffer from disorders of the joints and bones that would allow them to be easily restrained, yeah, id be up for that, 6 of them and one of me, i like them odds!!!!
As for the squaddies, they aint 6 10, they aint Body building Neo Nazis so i guess you are making false claims again!!!!
Soldiers are banned from being members of right wing organisations.
A smart soldier(IE all of them)would not become a Body Builder, excess muscle weight is like excess fat weight on the human frame.100lbs of fat or 100lbs of muscle has to be carried around, it stresses the joints on the lower limbs(when carrying a further battle load of 100+lbs in Kit)you are basically shifting you(200lbs shall we say)Plus the body building weight(100lbs shall we say)and your battle load(another 100lbs).So now you have one man going into battle and his weight combined is 400lbs.How can he possibly do his job??

A soldier must be able to carry his battle load for a distance of 8 Miles in 45 mins in order to be considered fit enough to be an Infanteer, show me a 400lb person who can run 8 miles in 45 mins, it is impossible.So we have now proven again that your claim that soldiers are 6'10" neo Nazi Body builders is as untrue as most of your other dishonest posts.

Originally Posted by pauli007001

I would, no fear, the bigger they come the harder they fall, People over 6'6" generally suffer from disorders of the joints and bones that would allow them to be easily restrained, yeah, id be up for that, 6 of them and one of me, i like them odds!!!!
As for the squaddies, they aint 6 10, they aint Body building Neo Nazis so i guess you are making false claims again!!!!
Soldiers are banned from being members of right wing organisations.
A smart soldier(IE all of them)would not become a Body Builder, excess muscle weight is like excess fat weight on the human frame.100lbs of fat or 100lbs of muscle has to be carried around, it stresses the joints on the lower limbs(when carrying a further battle load of 100+lbs in Kit)you are basically shifting you(200lbs shall we say)Plus the body building weight(100lbs shall we say)and your battle load(another 100lbs).So now you have one man going into battle and his weight combined is 400lbs.How can he possibly do his job??

A soldier must be able to carry his battle load for a distance of 8 Miles in 45 mins in order to be considered fit enough to be an Infanteer, show me a 400lb person who can run 8 miles in 45 mins, it is impossible.So we have now proven again that your claim that soldiers are 6'10" neo Nazi Body builders is as untrue as most of your other dishonest posts.

I didn't say that at all.

I meant that since flash claims to be quite strong person, the difference between him and a group of enormous body builders is about the difference between me (I'm very tall, and moderately strong, but not very muscular) and a group of squaddies... I referred to neo-nazis because I was trying to think of another violent organisation.

Originally Posted by DougieG

I didn't say that at all.

I meant that since flash claims to be quite strong person, the difference between him and a group of enormous body builders is about the difference between me (I'm very tall, and moderately strong, but not very muscular) and a group of squaddies... I referred to neo-nazis because I was trying to think of another violent organisation.

Again with the equating the army with mindless thugs.I assure you that if you approched a group of Squaddies at a recruiting stant and told them all the things you have said here you will not be subjected to any violence, just laughed at for your ignorence.Squaddies are not the savage racist neonazis and racist mass murderers you have claimed they are, they are simply normal people, who not as privalaged as you, chose a career path based on what was available to them.As for the rest, i guess you didnt find my claims that Squaddies are more educated ETC?

Perhaps if you put aside your mindless prejudices and bigotry and spoke to a couple of squaddies you may change your mind and realise they are just ordinary kids, human beings!!!!

So are the Labourers that you also made negative remarks about.

Originally Posted by DougieG

What? None of this backs up any stories you have told in the past about acquaintances or anything. I'm not asking that you back up things like that, just that you acknowledge that equally I have no way to prove my stories either.

Sorry, big difference, you claimed i was a liar when i said i lived in the USA, i have prooved it.You claimed that a gang of SQUADDIES in windsor attacked, attempted to murder and robbed a civvy.If this happened it would have been NATIONAL news, always is when squaddies are in a position to be painted in a bad light, it wasnt in any national papers, not even Local ones, now if gangs of murderous robbers are terrorising entire citys and towns in the UK and it is not news, im damned glad i mover the hell out, but somhow such a horrific crime would have been reported on by the local press, yet i have found nothing.You simply assumed they were squaddies, based on your prejudice.Reminds me of the story of the black kid who was Lynced in the Deep south during segregation in the southern states in the 50s.A white girl reported that she had been raped, the police sent her to a DR, and told all the townsfolk a girl had been raped.Out went the towns folk and captured the first black kid they found, castrated him and hung him for thew rape, turned out the girl had been raped by her (white) horse riding instructor.You assumed like those other Bigots assumed.

Originally Posted by pauli007001

Sorry, big difference, you claimed i was a liar when i said i lived in the USA, i have prooved it.You claimed that a gang of SQUADDIES in windsor attacked, attempted to murder and robbed a civvy.If this happened it would have been NATIONAL news, always is when squaddies are in a position to be painted in a bad light, it wasnt in any national papers, not even Local ones, now if gangs of murderous robbers are terrorising entire citys and towns in the UK and it is not news, im damned glad i mover the hell out, but somhow such a horrific crime would have been reported on by the local press, yet i have found nothing.You simply assumed they were squaddies, based on your prejudice.Reminds me of the story of the black kid who was Lynced in the Deep south during segregation in the southern states in the 50s.A white girl reported that she had been raped, the police sent her to a DR, and told all the townsfolk a girl had been raped.Out went the towns folk and captured the first black kid they found, castrated him and hung him for thew rape, turned out the girl had been raped by her (white) horse riding instructor.You assumed like those other Bigots assumed.

I didn't claim you were a liar. I was demonstrating how I believe that you do without requiring proof, otherwise we all may as well give up because you can't give 100% proof for everything you say online. There was no news story, I told you. Noone was convicted. Had they been, then yes it would have been newsworthy, but 'teen gets attacked' is sadly not national news, it is such a frequent occurrence.

Anyway, this is a stupid argument and we are going in circles. Nothing productive is coming of it. Everyone calm down or its closing time.

Originally Posted by DougieG

I didn't claim you were a liar. I was demonstrating how I believe that you do without requiring proof, otherwise we all may as well give up because you can't give 100% proof for everything you say online. There was no news story, I told you. Noone was convicted. Had they been, then yes it would have been newsworthy, but 'teen gets attacked' is sadly not national news, it is such a frequent occurrence.

Anyway, this is a stupid argument and we are going in circles. Nothing productive is coming of it. Everyone calm down or its closing time.

No it is not stupid it is relevant to your prejudice about squaddies.It was Not Squaddies, if it was squaddies trying to murder civvies whilst out commiting armed robbery IT WOULD HAVE BEEN NATIONAL NEWS.It wasnt squaddies, you just assumed it was, Right???

Originally Posted by pauli007001

No it is not stupid it is relevant to your prejudice about squaddies.It was Not Squaddies, if it was squaddies trying to murder civvies whilst out commiting armed robbery IT WOULD HAVE BEEN NATIONAL NEWS.It wasnt squaddies, you just assumed it was, Right???

Yes, if some squaddies had been convicted of armed robbery it would have been national news. They weren't charged or convicted.

I see your point, though. They were tall and burly, with very short hair and standing right near Maloney's in Windsor which is the squaddies' pub, being Irish (the Irish guards are stationed there). The men spoke with Irish accents. Hell, unless they'd walked up to him and said 'Hi, we're squaddies', there isn't much else that they could have done.