Originally Posted by Balthazar

I agree with much of that. When Muslim extremists take to British streets demanding death to whitey, their collars should be felt. They should, as a minimum, be documented by Special Branch and their phones tapped to ensure they're not planning on blowing up my mum on the 196 to Streatham. She's a kindly soul who's never hurt a fly, and I don't see why some bearded nutter should scatter her old bones to the four winds.

Originally Posted by Balthazar

Once the Irish killings are taken into account - the British white working class includes British citizens resident in Northern Ireland - their record of political violence, measured by totals killed and maimed, far outweighs that of British Muslim terrorists.

LOL!

According to your own logic the whole British white working class should be under surveillance by Special Branch. And you claim that your not a racist?

Originally Posted by Balthazar

Note to the mods. Sussex is getting his arse kicked so I suspect would like to see this thread locked, hence his threat of violence and the sexist abuse thrown at uncon. I'd like to kick his arse some more so ask, respectfully, that you avoid falling into the trap he's set. When a man offers violence on an internet forum and aims sexist abuse at a woman, it's important imo not to give him an inch.

It appears the only one getting their arse kicked is you. So much so that you must appeal to the mods for help.

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Originally Posted by Balthazar

I agree with much of that. When Muslim extremists take to British streets demanding death to whitey, their collars should be felt. They should, as a minimum, be documented by Special Branch and their phones tapped to ensure they're not planning on blowing up my mum on the 196 to Streatham. She's a kindly soul who's never hurt a fly, and I don't see why some bearded nutter should scatter her old bones to the four winds.

I also have a lot of sympathy for the British white working class: politically eviscerated in the 1980s when their unions were smashed; their working class political party - the Labour Party - taken over by entryists and transformed into yet another middle class party; lectured by the North London middle class on multiculturalism while those doing the finger waving face none of the pressures on jobs and housing caused by mass immigration and the 'flexible labour market' (code for: encouraging employers to place their boots on de-unionised workers' necks and keep them there).

Given that little list it reflects well - very well - on the basic decency and patriotism of the British white working class that more haven't taken the BNP shilling. The middle class political establishment is playing with fire.

So I accept much of the economic argument and the class analysis. British working class whites are getting a raw deal. They need their unions, their political party, and their self respect back.

But I reject the racist solution, the crazy conspiracy theories, the cod eugenics, the race war preparations, and the BNP architectonic which oh so neatly side-steps the race hate laws.

By jove, I do believe you've stopped talking out of your sphincter.

I too do not like any racism. And frankly, I don't give a flying ex 'crow' ment about the BNPs past affiliations. It's what they are now that I'm interested in. It's the future they offer my daughter I vote for.
But side by side with LibLadCon, how are the BNP so bad in comparison? What have the big three done to gain national trust? Most of the population do not trust government!

Nice to see a good post from you again.

Originally Posted by DavidRose

Like a typical liberal your memory is short term and selective. It was intolerant Britain that created your country.

Yes, they formed this country through theft and lies.

Originally Posted by DavidRose

Hitler's policy of Lebensraum was copied straight from the operating manual of the British Empire, the very policy that ensured you have enough land and resources to live on today.

Yes, Hitler did like copying Britain.

Originally Posted by SussexWithLove

2.5million in this country and the uk is 244,820 square kilometres. Thats 71.48 muslims per 7 square kilometres. I think we win.

True, but you have over 50 million people, we have 4 million, and there is very little difference in land size.

Plus, it is easier for people to migrate to the UK as it is like 20 miles or so from continental Europe.

Originally Posted by DavidRose

I smelt a rotten fish as soon as I looked at this photo.

Why?

Originally Posted by DavidRose

The majority of the marchers look Maori to me,

Yea, who would have thought, Maori in NZ.

I really don't see the relevance of their race.

Originally Posted by DavidRose

so I did some research. Turns out that these men are members of Destiny Church, a right-wing religious movement led by Brian Tanaki - himself an indigenous Maori -

True, except it's Tamaki

Originally Posted by DavidRose

that is at the center of an attempt to revive indigenous Maori culture and fight against unfair Treaties which were used to rob the Maori of their land.

They are not at the center, though they are probably involved in someway.

I really don't see the problem with people trying to revive Maori culture, and they defiantly aren't fighting against Te Tiriti o Waitangi, most Maori and non-Maori in this country believe that the treaty between Maori and the UK crown should be honored, as the British crown didn't honour the treaty when they signed it.

Originally Posted by DavidRose

New Zealand historian Peter Lineham says this about the movement:

Division, really? The majority of non-Maori I have met in NZ support the compensation to Maori for the loss of their lands and culture.

You do occasionally meet the odd racist prick who opposes it, but very rarely.

Originally Posted by DavidRose

It's always educational when one uncovers the real motivations for claims of racism and extremism by the liberal establishment.

What? What are these real motivations?

Originally Posted by DavidRose

White New Zealanders like Kiwi1691 stand to lose a lot more than political face if movements like Destiny Church are successful.

Successful at what?

Way to turn an example of extremist Christians into a racial rant DavidRose, but what more could I expect of you.

Originally Posted by British

Why do I get the feeling that you do not speak for New Zealand. You speak for YOU.

Because as usual, you haven't a clue.

Originally Posted by British

I've had several online friends with New Zealanders. And my wife has a pen friend that stemed fron on line chat. And they all know of our political stance. They've never condemned us, nor have they judged us. But some have said we are right.

I have been allover NZ, and met many different people.

I can assure you the majority would judge the BNP. Possibly you NZ friends are National Front members?

Originally Posted by Kiwi 1691

Because as usual, you haven't a clue.



I have been allover NZ, and met many different people.

I can assure you the majority would judge the BNP. Possibly you NZ friends are National Front members?

Not being in England, being at the other side of the world, and going by your ill-informed and most often stageringly stupid two dimentional remarks. I really think it is you, Kiwi, you who doesn't have a clue.
I wouldn't dream of making any comment on New Zealand politics. Or the rights and wrongs of what goes on there. Seeing as I don't live there. Or have never been.
I live here in Britain, Kiwi. This is the land of my birth and of my ancestors going back to when sand was invented!
What you seem to fail to notice, AGAIN is that there are a high proportion of us Brits who want a halt on immigration. Not just the BNP. The difference being is the BNP would actually act upon this issue, where as the other parties daren't.

As for the New Zealand friends, I don't know what their political persuations are. And I wasn't aware you had a National Front there. Maybe you should start making ridiculous comments to those in your own land before sticking your nose in politicspoliticalforum.com.
From where I sit, Kiwi. You really don't have much say. And when you do say... Well, the stuff that comes from the back end of my dogs makes better sense.