Originally Posted by Danielle..

the only terrorists are the Hamas and I wish they'll do to you what they did to us so you'll have a little brain to see what's really happening!
shame on you!

So one minute you're telling us all people should be able to live in peace; and the next you're saying MN should be bombed into oblivion because he disagrees with you? Oh and then, to add insult to injury, you make another personal insult; this time about his intelligence.

MN and I have had our rows, but I will not have someon having an unprovoked pop at him. The man is NOT unintelligent; far from it. So to make comments such as you have is wrong. NO personal insults Danielle; who do you persist in insulting those personally, who do not agree with you? It has nothing to do with the debate.

and non generations lived there, if you read the book of mark twain on his trip to Israel at 1846 he wrote he saw just swamps and deasices and not arab people \ palestinians \ villages!!

Mark Twain was a writer, what he did or did not see is not under question here. Its why Israel apparently has the right to become a nation, but not Palestine.

and the fact we got the country from the british, and the arab didn't - make it our's, not their's!
and by the way even in the arabs bible (koran) I can give you proofs that it's written Israel belongs to us!!
even in their bible!!!! what can you say about that?! huh?

Bibles have, again, nothing to do with this. This is about one nation trying to subjugate at best another, or at worst utterly wipe it out. Its' not acceptable.

Originally Posted by Danielle..

I admit my grammar sucks. I'm 16 years old

A fact that is not going to stop you getting into trouble if you keep insulting people.

the british GAVE US THIS COUNTRY

So what? Who was there first? According to MN the arabs - so that means Palestine has always been Arabic.

we didn't do nothing illeagle. even when the arab started wars against us when we had no army after the holocaust we won this terriories!

Your government has done PLENTY that was illegal. Banned weapons, heavy civilian casualties, the list goes on and on.

What has the holocaust got to do with anything? It has no bearing AT ALL on this debate. But as you have mentioned it, I will ask this question:

Why, after all your people suffered at the hands of the nazis, would they then go and basically do the same thing to another group of people?

It truly beggars belief for me - it would be bad enough ANY country doing what Israel has done, not just recently but, from what Ive read in the last few days, for DECADES to their neighbours; but to have a nation who has suffered similiarly to do the same thing to others chills me.

Hamas itself admited he uses inoccent people as human shields, and that's the reason they get killed.

No, there were NO Hamas at the UN sites were there? So why bomb those? No Hamas at the UN convoy OUTSIDE Gaza so why bomb that and kill an aid worker?

Gaza is lunching on us missiles for 8 years , sucide bomb us, did running over terror attcaks, palestinians rape israelian girls etc....... so we has alot of victims too!

Look back at my other posts here and on other threads I have listed the dead and casualties for both Palestine and Israel during this most recent war and also over the last 8 years. The difference is horrifying.

palestinians are ARAB - and there's 22 arabs countries!! bigger than europe together - so why we can't have tiny country of ourselves - without someone trying to kill us all the time?

So what if they're Arab; they're still entitled to Palestine. How about we tell all the Jews around the world then to go back to Israel? Not so cool then is it?

Palestine has as much right to exist Danielle as your country. You should remember that.

Originally Posted by Trouble43

A fact that is not going to stop you getting into trouble if you keep insulting people.

[b] So what? Who was there first? According to MN the arabs - so that means Palestine has always been Arabic.

Your government has done PLENTY that was illegal. Banned weapons, heavy civilian casualties, the list goes on and on.

What has the holocaust got to do with anything? It has no bearing AT ALL on this debate. But as you have mentioned it, I will ask this question:

Why, after all your people suffered at the hands of the nazis, would they then go and basically do the same thing to another group of people?

It truly beggars belief for me - it would be bad enough ANY country doing what Israel has done, not just recently but, from what Ive read in the last few days, for DECADES to their neighbours; but to have a nation who has suffered similiarly to do the same thing to others chills me.
No, there were NO Hamas at the UN sites were there? So why bomb those? No Hamas at the UN convoy OUTSIDE Gaza so why bomb that and kill an aid worker?

Look back at my other posts here and on other threads I have listed the dead and casualties for both Palestine and Israel during this most recent war and also over the last 8 years. The difference is horrifying.

So what if they're Arab; they're still entitled to Palestine. How about we tell all the Jews around the world then to go back to Israel? Not so cool then is it?

Palestine has as much right to exist Danielle as your country. You should remember that.

1. no one talked to you
2. I won't be here and listen to the things you say.
are you normal??
how can you compare the holocaust to the war in Gaza?????
something is definitly wrong with you. go check it!!!!
wow..... I don't even have what to say i'm really mad right now.

Originally Posted by Danielle..

1. no one talked to you

A debate is where many people talk - ie no one HAS to talk to me thank you.

2. I won't be here and listen to the things you say.
are you normal??

Oh good another insult. Can you not just debate the ISSUE?

how can you compare the holocaust to the war in Gaza?????

I was pointing out that bringing the holocaust into this is just another Israeli ploy to garner sympathy. It won't work anymore because people see similar war crimes being committed by Israel against their neighbours - most notably Gaza. Israel IS trying to systematically wipe out Palestine, your comments about the country prove that too, so there are similiarities.

something is definitly wrong with you. go check it!!!!

And another insult. There's nothing wrong with me thank you. Perhaps you could just respond to the ISSUE being debated?

wow..... I don't even have what to say i'm really mad right now.

Likewise here; as you make personal insults, ignore the points we make and refuse to read the evidence I've taken a lot of time to find and that YOU asked for. Its impossible to debate with you as you do not respond to any points we make.